21 April 2013

I Have A Secret

I've held on to something for quite awhile, now. I want to reveal a mystery that's been kept hidden for ages. It's something that God's revealed to me and I can assure you it's not what you're used to hearing. There aren't many others who know this. I've even scanned the Bible to find out what prophets or apostles would have known, but could only find a handful of people.
There are so many secrets out there waiting to be found.

I've been so excited about sharing this. It's taken everything within me to not just blurt it out. So let's get to the point...

The mystery I want to reveal is that Jesus never had to die for our sins. Yes, Jesus never had to come and die on the cross so that we could be forgiven. He didn't have to fulfill the Law or make a way for us to be saved either (Mat 5:17-20). Don't get me wrong. What he did was very real and true, but there never was any real magic behind it. It's not like Jesus' death made a way for God to finally accomplish something in our lives. It wasn't as if God's hands were tied until his Son came along and made something happen. Honestly, God's always been the same.

You see, Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb 13:8). Therefore, we always had forgiveness. We always had God's love, favor, and promises. When Paul preached about the Gentiles receiving the Good News, it didn't mean God never loved the Gentiles (Eph 3:1-13). He loved them just as much as he loved Israel. The Gentiles were his creation too. All his people are his.

It wasn't that we never had the gifts that Jesus gave us. He just made a way for us to believe it. He made a way for us to have a real living example. He simply came to prove what was already done and established even before the world began (John 17, 2 Tim 1:8-14, Tit 1:1-4).

Jesus was God's tangible way of showing us what God looked and acted like in the flesh. He provided a way for those who believed in the God of the Jews to see the true face and love of the Father. Before Jesus came along, the message of God's "favorite" people wasn't exactly true (Rom 2:10-11). Almost every Pharisee, temple leader, priest, prophet, etc. of the Bible would teach that God wasn't yet pleased with us unless we did a few certain things or believed a particular way. And, honestly, nothing's changed. It's no different today. The same wrath-of-God message has been taught forever from those that truly don't know God's heart (Ecc 1:9-11).

All that God's given us through Jesus has been at our disposal long before any of us were here. It was simply waiting on someone to believe it (John 6:47-51). He was waiting on someone to boldly take it and share it.

You have to understand that the Jews always needed someone or something to help them. They needed an aid to believe. They needed someone else to talk to God (Moses), they needed rules to follow (Law), they needed blood sacrifices to make them holy, they needed a king (David), they needed to see miracles (Jesus), and so on. It was never just enough for God's people to believe they had already arrived. They were never good enough.

The Truth is that God sent his Son to fix all that. Jesus showed you how much he loves you. He sent his Son to prove your worth and how much he values each and every one of you. Unfortunately, Christianity and its beloved church have been beating you down for ages.  For generation after generation, Christians have been instructing you on how much of a scumbag sinner you are and how undeserving you are of anything good. But, this isn't true. Not even close. It's actually the biggest lie of the Universe.

Honestly, God never told us how sinful we are (Rom 5:12-21). In fact, he's been trying to get us to believe the opposite. He's been trying to reveal just how amazing each of us are. He's never thought differently. His final attempt to get it through our thick-headed skulls, was his only Son (Rom 5:8-11). But still, no one believes him.

Not only did God mention time and time again how good everything was in the beginning, but he was specifically impressed with Adam and Eve (Gen 1:26-31). Of all the beasts, trees, fruit, stars, sun, moon and everything else he created, none carried God's breath like they did (Psa 8:3-9). None carried God's name and Spirit (Gen 2:7). None were made in his image except one - Adam and Eve.

In the beginning, there were two moments that weren't so good. One was when Adam was alone, and the other was when Adam and Eve believed they were naked. Neither of these were good, however God fixed both problems.

We know how he fixed the lonely problem, but how did he fix the naked issue?

He gave them garments of skin (Gen 3:21). Yes God, yet again, fixed what had been "broken" (Gen 3:10-11). God gave them a new and better covering that would hide their nakedness. This garment made Adam and Eve ok with themselves. He made a way for Adam and Eve to be able to handle their new found awareness (Gen 3:22). God made right what Adam and Eve thought was wrong.

Actually, nothing was ever really broken. This fruit fooled them into believing there was something wrong (Gen 3:7). As if they needed something more to be complete. This need to become whole or righteous is the same problem the Israelites faced. It's also a concept that is taught all over the world by Christians, however it's the message from the wrong tree.

God has always fixed the problems we create. He's been reminding us throughout history and in every single moment of our lives that we are good. The knowledge we gained from that one tree has been a constant thorn in our side (2 Cor 12:7-10).

The whole point of God's message is that you are good. But, no one ever believes him.

So, what is God to do?

Well, he sent the second Adam (1 Cor 15:45-49). He sent a second Adam to fix what the first Adam couldn't accomplish.

Yet, he did one better.

Through Jesus, God gave us an even greater wisdom than the one we had before. This newer and better awareness revealed that God had redeemed us and loved us no matter what (1 John 2:1-2). He made a way for all to be good again, righteous, holy, sanctified, spotless, wonderful, royal sons and daughters. He gave us a sacrifice to end all sacrifices. And, it was all done on God's own merit. He didn't want anyone to have any input or say in the matter. He didn't want anyone else to boast (1 Cor 1:28-31). He never wanted it to be something we did or could do. Nor did he want anyone to feel good about themselves because they performed some meaningless sacrifice, followed some ancient ritual, or did some random good deed. This time he left us completely out of the loop.
How many ways does God need to say it?

Basically, Jesus became your Tree of Life. He became your tree that produced a fruit so delicious, you couldn't go back to that other tree (Heb 6:1-6). God's only Son is the fruit from the tree you should be eating from. Period. Don't eat from the tree that makes you think there's something wrong with you. Don't listen to it or those that preach from it. It's killing you. The fruit seems right at first, and looks good to eat, but it only leads to death (Gen 2:15-17).

Trust Jesus was enough. Trust that there is nothing wrong with you. Have faith to believe that he made you and everyone else good. This would solve so many world issues. This Truth would flip people's world upside down. Through God's Son, he proved that he doesn't want your sacrifices or lame attempts to make yourselves right (Hos 6:4-6, Mic 6:6-8). You were always right.

All Jesus did was simply prove to you how much God loves you and how much he believes in you. The same God that died on the cross is the same God that was there from the beginning; even before the world began. He never changes and he's always kept his promises. You always had his love and forgiveness. You were always perfect in his eyes.

Jesus was God's last attempt to make us believe what he's been telling us all along. The fruit of his labor has always been the way to true life, and life more abundantly (John 10:7-11).

Therefore, if you still don't believe how God sees you, then he's got nothing (John 7:37-38). He's done it all.


Anonymous said...

Dathan you are saying the bible is a lie from start to finish.I don't guess God gave Moses the law for us to live by,or the prophets that predicted the birth of a king that would save us from our sins are the holy spirit to lead and guide us in all truth.I thank my God for what he has taught me.You don't even have to be a bible scholar to know the real truth.

Anonymous said...

I don't recall reading him say the bible was a lie, and the law was for the Jews as he explained. I don't think you actually read it with the intention of understand. You just looked for things to criticize.

Anonymous said...

I know exactly what I read he has some good points on a few things but is really out there on most.But you got to love him!!!

Pippy said...

Well, isn't this just lovely. :)

Get ready to be persecuted, and called names love because this kind of thinking gets people singled out every time. Not that it's not true - but because people suddenly close their ears to 'hear' and think that you are being blasphemous. (Which we ALL know is not the case).

As I posted on your FB post, I encourage everyone to read the parable in Mark 12:1-6. Pay special attention to v. 6. In my opinion, this is proof that God simply wanted to give us the LIFE of Him.

I know that God sent His Son to RECONCILE us to Him - therefore, I don't believe His mission was to die but rather, it was to bring His people back to Him. A risky mission, nonetheless.

I think we misread scripture based on previous learning's...from Sunday school as a child to sitting under sermons today.

Why is it that when we read of God 'giving' His Son, do we automatically assume that means 'death'? Just because you 'give life' or 'sacrifice' does not imply death!

Romans 5:18 tells us that it is His RIGHTEOUSNESS (not death!) that brings justification.

I think when you believe the death of Jesus was necessary, you close your eyes to the tragic scandal that actually took place...

They killed Jesus! JESUS!!! They killed the only one that was righteous! No, God did not kill him; they did! He came and healed and loved and helped. And they killed him!!

Don’t just accept this as ‘an OT law’ or ‘because they had to’, or because ’God sent his son to die’.

But, the best part: Even though we killed the son of God; God did not give up on us. He uses what has happened against him and his son as a sign of love.

The cross is an invite to come and become a son and a daughter of God like the one they killed.


Hope Brady said...

I just love reading your posts!! You have a perspective on things that really gets people to thinking and I love that!

Dathan Ellis said...

I'm not calling the Bible a lie. I'm actually making it more real. Do you have anything to add of value besides saying I'm wrong?

I never thought of those verses relating to this. Good call! I agree that his mission was to bring his people back to him too. Righteousness always reigns greater than any sin. However, he did come to die. I mean, no one can be born to sin (this world) and not die. No one can enter this world and not be a sinner either. His mission was to fulfill the Law. This meant there had to be an ultimate sacrifice to end all sacrifices and to cleanse all mankind (for those who were still following the Law). God saw fit to make that himself. Jesus even provoked his death by simply telling the Truth. Granted, Jesus was sweating bullets about it in the end, but still allowed them to do it. I hear what you're saying though. He didn't have to die, but the Jews needed a sacrifice...so he became exactly that. But, it still wasn't good enough.

Just trying to set people free. I'm glad you get it!

Janet Ross said...

Exactly! God always gives us WHAT WE SEEK... That's just a little scary 'cause if we choose to be completely adimet about having it our own way or not believing Him, He'll let us have it.

I have often wondered about what you have posted here.

For myself, I have had friends of 15 years accuse me of not caring, not loving, or being angry. Even after I had told them time and time again that it was not true. They accused me of the 'nots' because of how I was acting. Finally, in exasperation, I simply said, "Look - you either believe me or you don't. There is nothing else I can do."

Good read, Dathan. Without simple trust, Bible thumpers and Must Knowers will never get this but it is still so vital.

Looking forward to your next blog!

Dathan Ellis said...

I get that a lot too. Even from my own "friends" and family. I aint got time for that. I've got stuff to do. You're not alone.

Anonymous said...

Gen.6:6 God repented he made man because of their wickedness.Zech.10 they shall look upon whom they pierced.Zech.13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.God knew we would have to have a way of escape.At our best is it still enough?

Dathan Ellis said...

Your best is simply trusting (having faith) that we're good. There's nothing we can do to change that. We have to repent from thinking any other way. That sums up Jesus' entire message. If Christians would stop believing they are sinners or there is anything wrong with them, then life can begin.

Anonymous said...

Dathan, what do you do with the verse that says, 'there is none righteous, no not one'.?

Dathan Ellis said...

Romans 3:10 "as it is written: 'None is righteous, no, not one;'"

According to the Law no one is righteous, correct? This is what Paul was saying. No one can be justified by the Law. We are all found guilty if we judge by its letter. The Law is what gives us knowledge of what's right and wrong (knowledge of sin) (Rom 3:20). If following the Law can't justify us, then how are we justified (Rom 3:23-27)?

Anonymous said...

By faith. Got that, but you said in an earlier blog post response that it's simply to have faith that we're good. My contention, is that in order to be good...in other words...be in a right way...it's by faith. Not having faith that we're already good. It's like , in order to eat, I have to believe that I have already eaten. That makes no sense. So I dont understand how you can say that in order to have something , you have to believe that you already have that. That doesnt make sense to me.

Dathan Ellis said...

I really like how you're thinking. You get it. Actually, you understand more than most of my readers.

You are right. Having faith that Jesus justified you means you believe you are good - believe that Jesus' sacrifice washed you. What God is asking you to believe is that Jesus made you righteous. His work made you pure. Nothing you did, but everything God did. He nailed all sin to the cross. You can't do anything to save yourself or remove the sin in your life. If you tried, you would fail. All you can do is trust (have faith) that Jesus was enough. Period.

In your example you said, "It's like , in order to eat, I have to believe that I have already eaten." You got it! You have to believe that you already ate, when you never truly ate anything. You have to believe you already have forgiveness when you did nothing for it. This makes no sense at all, does it? Honestly, this is the whole point. It actually takes real faith to believe you're forgiven. It takes child-like faith to believe you are already good because of Christ.

Remember, Christ made you holy; not your belief; not your effort; not your sacrifices; not your good works; not your avoidance of sin. Now that Jesus made you good, do you believe it? Do you put your complete faith in what he did? Do you trust Jesus made you right...a long time ago?

The problem is we've been taught to believe that our faith is what cleanses us. This is not true. Faith is just trusting what has already been done. Jesus already made us good. Believing it is the problem. No one believes him.

Anonymous said...

Ha! The anonymous that is just wrote that message is the same one that you were saying in an earlier post that you didn't think I was a fan of yours. By the way , you still never answered my questions from then. Anyway, you twisted my words. You said I do understand when I told you I dont. There are plenty of verses that talk about how having faith in order to be made right. Not that you already have it. For example, what is the point of eating if all you have to do is believe you've already eaten? Well, the point is that if you dont eat, you'll eventually die. But that's what you're saying....in order to have something , you have to believe you already have it. It makes no sense.

Dathan Ellis said...

You fooled me. You aren't a fan of mine. You've made that quite clear by trolling me. However, you do understand. You clearly understand because you explained the eating example. The problem is you don't believe. You don't believe you're good until you you have faith, correct? Even though Jesus nailed all sin to the cross, you still believe you are sinful until you believe in Jesus, correct?

Anonymous said...

First I'm not trolling. Trolling indicates I'm watching and not saying anything. I'm actually engaging you, so I dont think thats trolling. Not sure the term though. Anyway, You're correct. I do believe that God loves the world (and since Im in the world then...) that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. That verse says to me that in order to have everlasting life, I have to believe. You seem to be saying that you have it whether you believe or not. I'm not sure how you get that.

Dathan Ellis said...

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Everyone perishes. Everyone dies. So he's not talking about physical death (like not eating) or even future death. He's talking about right now. He's talking about perishing on the inside. Or, having eternal life on the inside.

John 3:17 - For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

If God didn't send Jesus to condemn us. And, if he came to save us, then who is condemning the world of their sin? It's not Jesus or God. Jesus doesn't condemn us. God saved us. He saved the world. Those who believe in Jesus believe that Jesus is no longer condemning the world of their sin (like the Law did). If Jesus saved us, then who is condemning the world of their sin?

Anonymous said...

I cant begin to understand how you get what you get out of that, and I dont know any others that do either. I know you'll probably say that's because we dont believe. Well , you dont know that because you dont know me, and to say that you do know that would be judging, and you're against that. Besides, you claim we're all good, and at the same time say Jesus came into the world to save us. What did we need to be saved from if we've , according to you, always been all good?

Dathan Ellis said...

Clearly, we have a big problem. I say one thing and claim to know Jesus, but you say a completely different thing and claim to know Jesus. One of us is VERY wrong. One of us believes in a false message. Obviously, it's me because you know Jesus and that's not what he was saying. This is proven by years of Christian teaching and history of the Word which is common knowledge, today. This proves that I'm very misguided and following the wrong thing. I just want to make sure we're clear that we're on two different pages.

Now, if Jesus loved and saved the world on the cross and doesn't condemn you, then who is condemning you of your sin? Who was Jesus talking to when he said John 3:16?

Anonymous said...

Yes you are correct. We are on two different pages. As for your last sentence, it's the premise that I'm having trouble with. I believe that he provided an avenue to become saved. You're saying he saved everyone then. I believe that John 3:16 backs my point. Why do we need to believe in order to have something, if we already have something? Jesus was talking to Nicodemus, but it also applies to us because of previous verses that say that you must be born again. That tells me that there are some who aren't. In addition, why would Nicodemus have asked the question unless he wanted to become that, and wanted to know how. Those verses dont say that he was told that he was set, and it was already all good. He was told how to be made right, and why would he be told how to be made right, unless there was a problem, and he needed to be told how to be made right from something?

Dathan Ellis said...

Good. You have distanced yourself from me and my perspective. We agree we're on very different sides of the fence and it shows where each other stands.

Ok, now we're getting somewhere. Who was Nicodemus?

Anonymous said...

He was a pharisee and a member of the Sanhedrin. He also showed interest and Jesus. He wanted to know how to be born again.

Anonymous said...

Wait wait wait....I just re read one of your responses. Let me retract something. We are on different pages about some things. Not everything. I'm absolutely not judging you. .

Dathan Ellis said...

Ok, then we just disagree on whether or not Jesus saved the world. You believe no one is saved until they have faith in Jesus. I believe Jesus saved everyone, yet no one believes. One of these is VERY wrong. Clearly, I'm wrong and you're right because everyone knows the first point is what Christians believe and is what has been taught for ages. This is correct?

Yes, Nicodemus was a Pharisee and a ruler of the Jews. He was responsible for teaching God's ways to all the Jews and foreigners in the land. He would also be the one to teach and command other Pharisees under him what to do. The Pharisees knew God better than anyone. They had the right fruit, said all the right things, had their stuff together, went to church, memorized Scripture, taught others the way of God, followed all God's commands, condemned people of their sin, commanded them to repent of their ways, wore all the right clothes, wrote scripture on billboards, etc. But we have a problem. Why wouldn't Nicodemus, a man after God's heart and who knew Scripture better than anyone, understand what Jesus meant by "born again"?

Anonymous said...

Is the Bible not the inspired word of
God! Did Jesus not tell his Apostles
to go forth teach HIS word. Why would
he have told them to do this if the
world is saved.
"Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead on the third day, and that repentance and remission of sin should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
We are all searching for the way of the Lord, you seem to have funnel vision the same as you claim the church has, you want people to believe as you do, well so does the
churches want people to believe in the book that has surpassed all others, to know that it is Gods word! Apply it to your lives, live
a sinful life, because the devil is there to seek and destroy. I do not believe you are correct but that is what I think, I believe in the WORD OF MY GOD, THE ALFA OMEGA!
"Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they MAY have the right to the tree of life, and MAY enter through the gates of the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters and whoever loves and practices a LIE."

Dathan Ellis said...

You didn't answer the question about why Nicodemus wouldn't know what "born again" means when he knew God better than anybody?

The Bible is the inspired Word of God no more than your words are inspired by God. Is God not working in you? There is no difference.

When will you do what the Scripture you quoted says? When will you repent (turn back) from sin and remit (refrain inflicting or enforcing punishment) from sin? Did the Pharisees not do this? Isn't this what Jesus told Nicodemus (a Pharisee) not to do?? Sin is forgiven. Period. Jesus forgave all sin on the cross. There is no sin to condemn others with and neither is God condemning us of our sin. Why are you not telling the world to turn away from this so-called "sin" that has been preached for ages? To have faith in Jesus it was done. Jesus destroyed sin on the cross. He also completed the Law so that there is no knowledge of sin and no one can use it against another to say they're wrong. Go tell the world of this Good News! Start in Jerusalem, then go out. Save the world from their sins (knowledge of the existence of sin and that sin is dead). When will you obey his commands?? Frankly, you haven't begun to share the Good News with anyone. You're still preaching condemnation and death because of sin or lack of faith. Actually, you just made it quite clear you don't even believe Jesus. How is this any different from a Pharisee?

Surely, one of us knows God and the other is lying. Either you or I are completely clueless. You and I both know Scripture, but one of us doesn't have a clue what it's really saying. I used to be just like you, but God opened my eyes. Now I see. But, no worries. The Light will soon reveal the Truth.

Anonymous said...

Dathan, the anonymous who wrote, wait wait wait, is different from the anonymous that you just responded to.I will respond to you in a bit.

Dathan Ellis said...

Ok, no more Anonymous. You people are confusing me. I do not know why y'all are so scared to present your true selves. I suppose it's fear.